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Lord Slug
Tweet Topic Started: May 17 2014, 02:58 PM (1,638 Views)
SSJ	May 17 2014, 02:58 PM Post #1
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	So I finally got around to watching the movie. Does anyone care to discus the events of the film with me (time period, power scaling, etc)? First question: When exactly did this take place? Goku could use akaioken, but he was also capable of turning SSJ. So would this be right around the time of Namek?



~~StrawHatCrew~~	May 17 2014, 03:03 PM Post #2
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	I did a thread on this a long time ago if you want to read it you can. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8423224/1/ Anyways, I think Goku was the same power here like he was at his Arrival on Namek, 90,000. ...& Lord Slug (Giant) is stated to be superior to a Super-Saiyan (I think the Super-Saiyan. Goku in this Movie) Goku used Kaio-Ken x100 & some of Piccolo's power to defeat Lord Slug according to something, I can't remember Also I don't think you can really place it anywhere in the official time-line. Edited by StrawHatCrew, May 17 2014, 03:06 PM.



Topographic Oceans	May 17 2014, 03:07 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,787 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	This movie was released around the same time Goku's fight against Freeza was happening on the manga, but before he turned Super Saiyan. I'm personally not a big fan of this movie. It felt like a bad rip-off of the Piccolo Daimao arc. Namekian villain comes, looks for the Dragon Balls to get immortality, manages to get his wish but ends up killed by Goku (even the classic punch to the chest scene was replicated here). Edited by Topographic Oceans, May 17 2014, 03:15 PM.
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EMIYA	May 17 2014, 03:13 PM Post #4
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	It should be around the time of Namek. The real question is, is Goku based upon his Pre-Ginyu Fight or Post-Ginyu fight because that itself reall helps to lay down an area of where Slug and Goku are. If it's Pre and using the SEG amps. Giant Slug and SSJ Goku are around Initial Final Form Freeza. However if its Post-Ginyu, then Goku and Slug are above 100% Freeza. It's clear I think that its taking to point the idea of what Super Saiyan could be like based upon how it was being built up during Namek before it was actually shown.



Alex D. Boss	May 17 2014, 03:15 PM Post #5
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	It takes place before the SSJ event , right after Frieza's 2nd or 3th transformation IIRC , and King Kai also calls Goku a SSJ ( meaning that AT first planned this form as a SSJ , but changed it later to blond). Goku used a fking Kaioken x 100 ,its still questionable where Lord Slug stands. I dare to say that Slug Lord Slug old form could be between 2nd form and 3nd form Frieza. Young Slug could be at Frieza 4th form , and Giant Slug should be at 100 milli's. Never thought that Slug would this strong.



SSJ	May 17 2014, 03:23 PM Post #6
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	That's crazy. I was initially thinking that it was Goku @ Ginyu, so his SSJ power would be 4.5 million. It's definitely possible for Giant Slug to trounce Freeza though, especially if Goku was post-Zenkai.



Alex D. Boss	May 17 2014, 03:30 PM Post #7
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	I don't think that SSJ Goku would beat Lord Slug , if you saw how Slug survived Goku's 100xkaioken. Or.. Goku got weakened before the kaioken , that could also be a point.



EMIYA	May 17 2014, 03:33 PM Post #8
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Yeah Mass Beast Slug was whooping *** and taking names. Upon his death he gave off the title of hax to Cooler who held it for a very long time before handing it over to Hirudengard.



Alex D. Boss	May 17 2014, 03:37 PM Post #9
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Father Brofist May 17 2014, 03:33 PM Yeah Mass Beast Slug was whooping *** and taking names. Upon his death he gave off the title of hax to Cooler who held it for a very long time before handing it over to Hirudengard. You're not gonna believe this, but I think Slug may show who is the cooler one between him and Frieza's brother. I think Slug may defeat Cooler final form lol. IMO, Slug is the most shettiest , boring villain in entire show but damn he can be strong.



~~StrawHatCrew~~	May 17 2014, 03:37 PM Post #10
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	Alex KloonBoss May 17 2014, 03:15 PM It takes place before the SSJ event , right after Frieza's 2nd or 3th transformation IIRC , and King Kai also calls Goku a SSJ ( meaning that AT first planned this form as a SSJ , but changed it later to blond). What I heard was that Toei didn't know how Super-Saiyan was going to look like. Edited by StrawHatCrew, May 17 2014, 03:39 PM.



EMIYA	May 17 2014, 03:40 PM Post #11
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Nobody did, it was Toei's own vision of what Super Saiyan could be like from all the build up. The original title of the movie is after all "Super Saiyan Son Goku"



Alex D. Boss	May 17 2014, 03:42 PM Post #12
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	StrawHatCrew May 17 2014, 03:37 PM Alex KloonBoss May 17 2014, 03:15 PM It takes place before the SSJ event , right after Frieza's 2nd or 3th transformation IIRC , and King Kai also calls Goku a SSJ ( meaning that AT first planned this form as a SSJ , but changed it later to blond). What I heard was that Toei didn't know how Super-Saiyan was going to look like. Indeed. And AT saw the design of SSJ , and didn't find it cool , so he turned it to blond. Sexism.



SSJ	May 17 2014, 03:50 PM Post #13
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	DBZ Movie 4: Super Saiyan Son Goku (Lord Slug) Release Date: March 19, 1991 Manga Release (4 months back): "A Warrior’s Revival" (Nov 19, 1990) Manga Release (6 months back): "The Last Wish" (Oct 15, 1990) Latest Manga Chapter Release: "The Last Chance! An Extra-Large Genki-Dama" (Mar 18, 1991) Between Episodes: #82 ("Sally Forth, Goku!! A Furious Freeza’s 2nd Transformation") - #83 ("Fear Me!! Freeza Does Battle With a 3rd Transformation") To be fair, the film would have been scripted/produced long before Freeza transformed into his 3rd form in the anime. I'm not exactly sure which manga chapters those are, but I'd say those are the accurate times to go by.



Alex D. Boss	May 17 2014, 03:53 PM Post #14
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Just like I said.



SSJ	May 17 2014, 03:55 PM Post #15
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Alex KloonBoss May 17 2014, 03:53 PM Just like I said. But you're going by the release date. It released when Freeza went into his third form, yes. But the script and all of that good stuff would have been finished long before that. I'm thinking the Ginyu time period is more accurate.



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